Interview: Phil Mickelson Still Shocked By PGA Win, Plus Ryder Cup, and Diet

Phil Mickelson Wins 2021 PGA Championship
Phil Mickelson gives a thumbs up on the 18th green during the final round of the 2021 PGA Championship held at the Ocean Course of Kiawah Island Golf Resort on May 23, 2021 in Kiawah Island, SC. (Photo by Stacy Revere via Getty Images)

Ahead of the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial, Phil Mickelson sat down with the media to talk about his stunning PGA Championship win at Kiawah Island, as well as his Ryder Cup chances, his diet and fitness, and what lies ahead for the 50-year old left-handed legend.

Phil Mickelson Talks About PGA Championship Win

Question: Phil, welcome to the Charles Schwab Challenge here at Colonial, two-time winner, and coming off an historical win at the PGA Championship. Now that you’ve had some time can you reflect on what that win meant Sunday, and are you excited to be back at Colonial?

PHIL MICKELSON: It was a very special week. I don’t know how to putt it into words. It’s been a fun couple of days. Flew home and saw Amy that night. We stayed up until 6 Eastern time in the morning and hung out all day and yesterday, and then flew out here.

And I’m excited to play here because I’ve been playing well and I want to try to carry that momentum into a tournament that I’ve enjoyed many times and fortunate to win a couple of times on a great golf course.

Question: I wanted to talk about belief with you. You talked about how you still believed and you said that you didn’t believe that you actually did it. How did you continue to have the confidence and belief in yourself? I feel like after the round at Tampa, maybe that was close to your most dejected I’ve seen you in a long time. What were you able to turn around from there?

PHIL MICKELSON: It’s obviously been a struggle as you know. A big thing for me in getting things turned around has been the opportunity to play with a lot of good, young players, and so just prior to Innisbrook I had a chance to play with Rory McIlroy and Rickie Fowler at The Grove in Florida and I had a chance to play a lot of golf in the last year and a half with Charley Hoffman and Xander Schauffele in San Diego and that’s made a big difference for me.

I remember a year ago almost to the day where I was playing a few rounds at the Farms with Xander, and we played a match and he went out and shot 64 and I’m like, wow, all right, I want — you gave me a pretty good beating and I wanted — let’s do this again so a few days later went and played again and he shot 63. I’m like, wow, okay. Let me try one more time.

So we go out next time and he shoots 62 on a 220-yard par 3, I had to press and hit one four feet and he makes a hole-in-one. I went back and talked to Amy and I’m like, I don’t know how I’m going to beat this guy. He’s probably playing the best of any player in the world right now. Then he came Colonial the following week and almost won here.

But seeing that, and the way he played with this calm, and didn’t try to overpower every hole but overpowered the holes he should and keep the ball in play and keep the ball on the ground and hit his iron shots pin-high and being solid from inside 15 feet. I saw what it looked like to play at the highest level and so forth.

Well, just prior to Innisbrook, I started shooting those same scores at the same course and I felt like I should be able to compete and then I went to Innisbrook and I missed the cut and I didn’t shoot the scores and I didn’t execute on Tour the way I had been at home.

So I still had a barrier to break through and that’s why I was so frustrated is that I wasn’t bringing my best out when I knew I could, and I had a glimpse there obviously at Charlotte in one round but wasn’t able to sustain it.

Then to hold it together and play some really good golf over 72 holes last week meant a lot because I had seen the progress but I had not seen the results, and so that’s why I say, I had a belief but until you actually do it, it’s tough to really fully believe it.

Question: The way that you were able to focus last week, does it give you — did it bolster your confidence that the days of playing like an idiot at the U.S. Open are over?

PHIL MICKELSON: No, after 35 years of that, like it’s just not going to go away.

But what I do think is this. One of two things are going to happen: Either that’s going to be my last win and I’m going to have one of the most cherished victories of my career to look back on and cherish for a long time, or I also may have kind of found a little something that helps me stay a little bit more present and helps me focus throughout round a little bit longer and maybe I can execute and play golf at the highest level for a nice extended period of time now.

I don’t know which one it’s going to be, but either way, they are both positive.

Question: You were speaking about what you do eating-wise, but mentally after such a huge week, how do you turn to this week to try to do it again?

PHIL MICKELSON: So that’s going to be a difficult challenge obviously. That’s going to be the biggest challenge for me because I kind of went from keeping my mind off of all the distractions and the noise during the week of the PGA to really letting it come in the last two days, enjoy it, and really it hit me in the last two days what just happened.

Because when I’m doing it, I’m not fully aware because I’m so in the moment. But that night, hanging out with Amy, seeing it, seeing some of the highlights, thinking, wow, this really happened.

And now, it’s Wednesday and it’s time to get off of social media and get back on the practice range and start to refocus and start to get my mind quiet again and get rid of the distractions and get back in the present. So that’s going to be a challenge. It’s not easy for me to do.

But last week I was able to acquire the skills to do that and I’m hoping that I can keep doing that more.


Phil Mickelson Talks Diet
Phil Mickelson Wins 2021 PGA Championship
Phil Mickelson raises his arms and celebrates his two stroke victory on the 18th hole green at the PGA Championship on The Ocean Course at Kiawah Island Golf Resort on May 23, 2021, in Kiawah Island, SC. (Photo by Keyur Khamar PGA TOUR via Getty Images)

Question: Do you think that the toughest part discipline-wise, I heard you say something about this on Sunday, the biggest ask discipline-wise is the dietary stuff and eliminating the inflammatory sugar, processed food, wheat, etc.?

PHIL MICKELSON: I do think it’s difficult. I don’t know which is most difficult. It’s probably different for each person. But for me, I was motivated because in 2010, I had an autoimmune disease that required me to take medication and it could have easily shortened or ended my career. Because of a little bit more discipline eating-wise, I’ve been able to put it in remission and go about my normal life now.

So I know that eating is an important part for me because I have to get my immune system and t-cells and everything in balance. But it also allows me to recover faster by eating better and getting rid of inflammation in by body and I have to work out and work out the right way so my body functions right and I don’t cause injury when I practice.

I need to be able to practice and work on my game and do it efficiently because I might not be able to hit 500 balls, but I can still hit a couple hundred and it should be enough if I do it the right way.


Phil Mickelson on Now Being in the Ryder Cup Conversation
Phil Mickelson Ryder Cup
Phil Mickelson of Team USA during a practice round at Le Golf National ahead of the 2018 Ryder Cup in Paris, France. Photo by Gareth Fuller/PA Images/Getty Images

Question: Is The Ryder Cup, actually playing this year, how much did that factor into your continuing to pursue your greatness?

PHIL MICKELSON: So I have not been a thought let alone even in the discussion for The Ryder Cup, but in my heart, I always felt if I played and could put it together on the regular tour and play well that I might be able to move up and give myself an opportunity.

Now if I’m the captain, I’m not going to want a guy that plays well one week in an entire year. And so just because I played really well last week and won a big championship, that does not warrant a spot on the team by any means but I know at least have an opportunity over the course of the next three months to at a high level consistently and maybe be in a position to add something to the team.

If not, we have such a good group of young players, I don’t want to disrupt that, either. You know, we have a lot of talented players, and I’ve had 25 years now of playing, so it may be time to step aside and let these young guys take over.

And certainly they are playing well enough and to do it and to represent the United States incredibly well, but for me personally, if I could add to the team and not be a hindrance or a distraction, I would obviously love to be a part of it because they are such special events, and I would love to be able to play for Captain Stricker.

But all I have now is an opportunity to show consistency over the next three months, because one event is not — that’s not the guy you want that plays well one week. You want to know what you’re getting, and if I can do that consistently now for the next three months, then I might be able to really add something to the team. But if not, it’s time for the young guys to take over and run with it because they are so talented.


Phil Mickelson on U.S. Open Prep
Phil Mickelson U.S. Open
Phil Mickelson plays a shot during a practice round prior to the 2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills GC on June 13, 2018 in Southampton, NY. (Photo by Andrew Redington via Getty Images)

Question: So this the last tournament you’ll play before the U.S. Open?

PHIL MICKELSON: Correct. I’ll take the next two weeks off and the week before the U.S. Open they are going to close the course down for public play and I’ll try to spend some time out there to just get comfortable on the golf course.

Honestly since the redo 20 years ago, I have not played that course as well as I would like to. I tried to force it. A lot of pins you can’t go to, you have to play 60, 50 feet away and a lot of holes I get overly aggressive, obviously that’s my nature.

There’s a proper way to play it, and I’ve seen it and I want to have the discipline to do it and so I want to spend some time out there to develop a good game plan.

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